Showing posts with label Gitmo. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Gitmo. Show all posts

Monday, April 4, 2011

Reality wins again: KSM to be tried by military tribunal

CBS News: Attorney General Eric Holder today announced that self-proclaimed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and his four alleged co-conspirators will be tried in a military commission, as the CBS News Investigative Unit reported earlier today. A source tells CBS News the commission will be held at the Guantanamo Bay prison.

Today's announcement represents a pronounced shift in the administration's handling of terrorism cases. Trying Mohammad in a civilian court and closing the Guantanamo prison were once some of the Obama administration's top priorities, but political realities have hamstrung both goals.

Holder said today that he still believes the federal court system would have provided the best court system. The Justice Department today unsealed the indictment against the accused 9/11 plotters in December 2009, which Holder said revealed "we were prepared to bring a powerful case against Khalid Sheikh Mohammad."

"I continue to think the Article 3 courts are the best place to bring" the accused terrorists to trial, he said. However, he added, justice for the victims of 9/11 has been "long overdue and must not be delayed any further." [MORE]
So Gitmo won't be closing and KSM will not get a civilian trial. Reality 2, Obama administration 0. Closing Gitmo and holding civilian trials for enemy combatants were never really doable. There were some very sticky issues that made doing both pretty much impossible.

I think the main reason the left took to these ideas had more to do with being reflexively anti-Bush rather than a thoughtful position. If Bush was for A, the the left was for B. Standing in opposition to everything is easy to do when you are not in the drivers seat. However, when you are forced to live with the consequences and actually attempt the executions of these opposing ideas, reality starts to intrude.

Despite the setback the left will feel over this, I doubt it will hurt Obama with his base. If anything, giving up civilian trials may help Obama with independents.

The real sad part about all of this is the complete waste of time and money spent trying to bring a bad idea to life.

Via: Memeorandum
Via: CBS News

Friday, March 5, 2010

Retreat? Obama advisers to recommend military tribunals for KSM


The Washington Post has a big scoop today. It is reporting that Obama’s advisers are going to recommend that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed be tried under a military tribunal. 
From The Washington Post: President Obama's advisers are nearing a recommendation that Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, be prosecuted in a military tribunal, administration officials said, a step that would reverse Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.'s plan to try him in civilian court in New York City.
The president's advisers feel increasingly hemmed in by bipartisan opposition to a federal trial in New York and demands, mainly from Republicans, that Mohammed and his accused co-conspirators remain under military jurisdiction, officials said. While Obama has favored trying some terrorism suspects in civilian courts as a symbol of U.S. commitment to the rule of law, critics have said military tribunals are the appropriate venue for those accused of attacking the United States.
If Obama accepts the likely recommendation of his advisers, the White House may be able to secure from Congress the funding and legal authority it needs to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and replace it with a facility within the United States. The administration has failed to meet a self-imposed one-year deadline to close Guantanam
What is interesting to note is that they are doing this for political reasons rather than listening to the will of the people or accepting the logic behind military tribunals. The WaPo story goes on to show that the administration has not completely given up on civilian courts or closing Gitmo. 
If Obama accepts the likely recommendation of his advisers, the White House may be able to secure from Congress the funding and legal authority it needs to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and replace it with a facility within the United States. The administration has failed to meet a self-imposed one-year deadline to close Guantanamo…
…Top Obama advisers have been negotiating with Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) — a vocal critic of trying the Sept. 11 suspects in civilian court — in pursuit of a deal that would secure his help in closing Guantanamo…
To close the detention center at Guantanamo, the administration needs funding to acquire and refurbish a prison in the United States, probably a state-owned maximum-security facility in Thomson, Ill. Because Congress has barred the transfer to the United States of all detainees except those destined for prosecution, the White House needs legal authority to move prisoners it plans to hold in some form of indefinite detention.
An interagency review of all cases at Guantanamo Bay concluded that about 50 prisoners will have to be held in some form of prolonged detention without trial, because the evidence against them was obtained through the use of harsh interrogation methods or because its revelation in court would compromise intelligence gathering. The government says the detainees are too dangerous to release. 
One would think that having to borrow $1.6 trillion for the budget, the idea of spending money to hold civilian show trials would be off the radar. Something tells me that we will be seeing a retreat on this front as well.

The liberals are going to go absolutely bananas over this decision and the WaPo story makes note of that as well. 
Privately, administration officials are bracing for the ire of disappointed liberals and even some government lawyers should the administration back away from promises to use civilian courts to adjudicate the cases of some of the 188 detainees who remain at Guantanamo. 
Obama is going to have to throw liberals a major bone after this retreat. Liberals have had to sacrifice a lot under Obama.  Liberals are not getting a public option in health care reform, no cap and trade legislation, no immediate withdrawal from Iraq or Afganistan and now this.  If Obama has wants any hope of liberals being energized for him in 2012, he is going to have to give liberals a major something something soon.

Eric Holder is also not going to like this decision. He was the one who came up with the idea of holding the KSM trial in NYC in the first place. Should Obama override him on this, Holder will look as clownish as Napolitano. This retreat on  KSM comes right after having to give up the names of the Al Qaeda 7 too. My guess is that if Holder stays on, we will be hearing far less from him.

Friday, January 22, 2010

50 Gitmo Detainees to be held indefinitely



It looks like Obama and the left are finding out the hard way that George Bush might have known what he was going regarding Gitmo: 
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has decided to continue to imprison without trials nearly 50 detainees at the Guantánamo Bay military prison in Cuba because a high-level task force has concluded that they are too difficult to prosecute but too dangerous to release, an administration official said on Thursday.
However, the administration has decided that nearly 40 other detainees should be prosecuted for terrorism or related war crimes. And the remaining prisoners, about 110 men, should be repatriated or transferred to other countries for possible release, the official said, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about the numbers. 
The whole idea of closing Gitmo, always had more to do with opposing everything Bush did, than anything to do with reality. Obama’s decision to making closing Gitmo his first priority always seemed to me to be Obama’s willingness to believe all leftwing talking points on the issue, rather than taking the time to really look into the matter.  

Obama’s whole handling of terror in general seems to be like he is trying to follow liberal dogma rather than dealing with the realities at hand. This is why we have such a mix mash terror policy. Obama starts out by following liberal beliefs and then when confronted with stark realities he deviates from the liberal point of view just enough to address the issue at hand. This is why we have two sets of rules for handling terrorists. One set of rules for those caught here and another for those on the battlefield.

This approach is reactionary rather offensive and is simply not aggressive enough to deal with a persistent enemy.  It is only a matter of time before terrorists end up several steps ahead of us and then we will be in for a world of hurt.

Monday, June 15, 2009

Rewarding Evil

One of liberal’s favorite talking points against the war in Iraq, was that Bush was making more terrorist. Well, with Obama sending Uyghurs off to Bermuda (all expenses paid mind you) isn’t he going to create more terrorists by rewarding evil?

Think about this, all one has to do is join Jihad, go to a training camp and then go through the motions of terrorism and get picked up by the US. Since you did not kill anyone or really fight a soldier you can make an argument that you are innocent and get a free ticket to a sunny paradise. Gone are the days of starvation and sand storms and hello beautiful beaches and sunshine!

It just strikes me as odd, that Obama who ran a campaign so keen on imagery, could not see what a bad image moving Gitmo prisoners to an island paradise would be. Does he not think that many in slums of the Middle East will see this as an avenue to a better life?

While some will argue that the Uyghurs never took up arms against America, we cannot forget that they trained for Jihad. They were willing to learn how to commit evil, so why reward their misdeeds?

Saturday, June 6, 2009

Something to think about: Abdul Hakim Muhammad and the Gitmo detainees

Within conservative circles, the focus surrounding Abdul Hakim Muhammad, the Army Requiter Killer, has mosty been about the media's unequal treatment of his story versus George Tiller's killer. Tiller's story was sensationalized within minutes, while the details of Muhammed deliberately remain sketchy and obscure. While this battle over media bias rages on, I would like to focus on another question. Could the radicalization of Abdul Hakim Muhammad be the fate that awaits us should be start bringing Gitmo detainees here?

Some liberals are arguing that our Supermax prisons are more than equip to handle the task of holding Gitmo detainees. To a certain degree, they are correct, however our Supermax prisons were never designed to jail political or radical thoughts. Bringing radicalized Islamic Gitmo prisoners to the US, runs the risk of spreading their ideas on our soil.

While looking into Supermax prisons, I came across this article about the psychological effects of Supermax confinement:

A study by Craig Haney (2003), who researched conditions at Pelican Bay's Security Housing Unit (SHU), evinced that the psychological effects of supermax confinement can induce appetite and sleep disturbances, panic attacks, anxiety, uncontrollable rage, hallucinations, and self-mutilations, some of which occur from the extreme sensory deprivation of such conditions. (It has been speculated that one of the factors behind the Kingston Penitentiary riot in 1971 was that prisoners were restricted from "personalizing" their cell-space, or decorating their living environments, creating an environment akin to sensory deprivation or loss of control.) In addition to Hane'ys medical symptoms there are subtler cognitive, attitudinal, or homeostatic alterations incurred. Below is a comprehensive inventory of the documented effects from psychiatric reports and research into supermax confinement:

negative attitudes
insomnia
social withdrawal
hypersensitivity
ruminations (compulsive preoccupations, duress, or strain produced by indecision)
paranoia
hallucinations
self-mutilations
hopelessness
a sense of impending doom
suicidal ideation and suicide attempts
aggression.


After reading this, two quick thoughts emerge. First, for all of the complaints many on the left have about the conditions of Gitmo, it seems odd that some of them are eager to subject the Gitmo detainees to these effects (but that is for another blog post). Second, doesn't these effects sound like excellent precursors for creating homegrown Islamic extremists?

It is no secret that conversion to Islam takes place throughout our prison system. Some statistics show 1 in 10 inmates convert, with about 1 in 5 keeping up with it once released. Given these statistics, why would we want to add prisoners to our prison system that are radicalized to the point where they have already engaged in Jihad in Iraq? Even the much talked about Uighurs seem to have an ax to grind.

As Abdul Hakim Muhammad's story slowly unfold and as we grow closer to the arbitrary closing date of Gitmo's, let us keep the possible connection of the two in mind.
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