Saturday, October 17, 2009

Obamageddon Video

A friend emailed this video to me and I thought I would share it. It comes from Real Catholic TV.  It is one of the first videos I have seen that address the end result to Washington's buck wild spending spree.  Those of you not of the faith, you may want to skip the last 10 seconds. Other than that, it is pretty solid stuff.


The Griper said...

something well worthy to think about. congrats, my friend.

Velcro said...

I think most Americans don't know it yet because its almost unthinkable. The proposition that this great country, world leader in so many ways, has imploded is hard for the mind to accept. But sadly, and fearfully, I agree. I hope it can be reversed.

madmath1 said...

Well, perhaps this is what BO meant by getting in their faces only here with the facts. One of the most straight forward as well as scary because of the facts segments I've seen. Especially how our debt is put in proper prospective, $60,000,000,000,000 or more than all the money in the world. If this doesn't get people's attention to what Obamanomics is doing, then nothing will.


I keep hoping that like ancient Rome we may have a few reformers that correct our course so that it may last longer.

Mnut said...

I'm sure the Church would disapprove of 90% of this message.

The only portion of this video that is in concert with the Church's view is the abortion issue.

Too many Catholics are forgetting that, other than their vote, mainstream religious Republicans are anti-Catholic as evidenced by all national candidates seeking out the likes of John Hagee and debating at Bob Jones University etc.

The Vatican has repeatedly asked the U.S. to spend more money overseas, curb global greenhouse gases (plenty of anti-warmers have taken one of the Pope's quotes out of context to say he supports them see #7 "If the protection of the environment involves costs, they should be justly distributed, taking due account of the different levels of development of various countries and the need for solidarity with future generations."), stop the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, support workers rights in developing countries and a host of other decidedly non-Republican ideas. The Church in the U.S. is being hi-jacked by cafeteria Catholics who want the Church to conform to their beliefs not the other way around.

Abortion is the only issue on which the Republican platform and the Church's teachings are aligned. And I remain convinced by the evidence that Republicans like to campaign on the issue more than they like to solve the issue. How many votes came up to ban abortion during the 6 years of Republican control? (hint: less than one)

Clifton B said...

The Griper:

It is something I don't think a lot of us are thinking about. However, it is a very real consequence given the level of debt we are racking up.

Clifton B said...


Yes, sadly too many Americans cannot grasp the concept that America IS NOT too big to fail.

Clifton B said...


It is like we are sleepwalking right into our own destruction.

Clifton B said...


I am with you in that hope. I am very encouraged that conservatives are alarmed to the point of activism!

Clifton B said...


So but we are going to disagree here. First and foremost, anyone who dare call themselves Catholic, had better understand that when it comes to abortion, the issue is non negotiable. The Lord said “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” and Live belongs to God.

Now regarding all the other items. Republicans that are true conservatives will not have a problem here. True conservative Republicans are suppose to support the individual. As such each individual is free to follow all the request of the Church. It is not the government's roll to force individuals to be charitable.

The Vatican can ask Americans to give more, however that call should be answered by us as individuals and not the government mandating a redistribution of wealth.

Americans are a generous nation without government's assistance. Conservative are consistently ranked as higher givers than liberals time and time again.

The Church in the U.S. is being hi-jacked by cafeteria Catholics who want the Church to conform to their beliefs not the other way around.

This is where we do agree. As a Catholic I see far too many agendas being pushed in the Church that have little to do with the teachings of Christ and everything to do with self interests.

Mr. Excellent said...

I may have not written clearly, but I do agree that to be a Catholic you can not be pro-abortion.

However, where we disagree is that I do not believe that most Republican politicians wish to change the laws. If that were no longer an issue upon which they could absolutely depend to receive votes, things would be harder for them. I know many, many single issue (abortion) voters who do not even listen to any other issue.

Looking at the SCOTUS appointees of Bush it's clear to see that even the most pro-life President in modern history didn't even live up to the promise:

"It's settled as a precedent of the court, entitled to respect under principles of stare decisis. And those principles, applied in the Casey case, explain when cases should be revisited and when they should not. And it is settled as a precedent of the court. " -Roberts

"[y]ou don't go straight to the Roe decision. You begin with Casey, which modified the Roe framework and REAFFIRMED its central holding."" - Roberts (emphasis added)

In his concurrence, Alito cites the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Stenberg v. Carhart in support of upholding a lower court's decision to permanently enjoin (i.e., prevent) enforcement of New Jersey's Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 1997
-- Abortion Ban Act is held unconstitutional -Decided by Samuel Alito

Add to that the fact that for 6 years we had Republican control of all levels of federal elected government and moved only to ban the "Partial Birth Abortion". Miraculously, the signing of the bill coincided closely with the beginning of the '04 campaign for the Democratic Presidential campaign (Nov. '03). Did the congress and President believe it was ok to perform this act for the 2 1/2 previous years?

As for the rest, I think we'd need a whole different forum to debate Catholic theology :)

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